Any recommended Lock on grips for the Varg?

[drehwurm68]

What made you open the housing and try it in the first place?
Is there any tool that will undo housing screws without drilling them out?

It was one of the first things I did to the Varg as I never rode with the stock grips - got some ODI universal lock ons. The housing screws on the Hirschmann throttle are pretty soft metal which is easy to drill. Instead of drilling out the head of the screws completely I used a 2mm drill bit to make a hole a few mm deep and used some screw extractor to get the bolt out. Basically you should do this to any Varg as this will enable you to remove and clean the throttle tube without unplugging the cables (which is a pain on the EX).

Yes, the "spring neck" in the picture above is what I was talking about. There is a pocket in the hosing where it seats into, but you can also use the pocket besides this one for less preload. I'll try to make some pictures.

Michael

 

[drehwurm68]

Stock spring position, high preload:



Modified position, less preload:



The aluminum lockring will secure the spring tab in place once installed.

Michael

 

[OpaTsupa]

Thanks for the pictures.
I must try it once the local monsoon passes.

Do you think Stark considered it as an option or it is just how it comes from the Hirschmann manufacturer?

 

[drehwurm68]

Do you think Stark considered it as an option or it is just how it comes from the Hirschmann manufacturer?

Of course not! Just think of it - with the power of the Varg and no clutch the only thing from keeping you being catapulted into the next dimension is a properly working throttle. So the last thing Hirschmann or Stark will want you to do, is to tinker with the throttle. The Hirschmann throttle is seriously overbuild and the strong return force most likely part of that strategy to avoid any liability issues. Could be the reason as well why we haven't seen Stark making their own throttle or the aftermarket offering stuff.

Michael

 

[rs911]

Honestly I was very tempted when I saw the owner of Berm teasing it on facebook.
Racetorx also has one

Racetorx ODI-Style Lock-On Grip Adapter – Stark VARG Throttle Tube Replacement (DIY Kit) - Racetorx

Upgrade your Stark VARG throttle system with the RaceTorx ODI-style lock-on grip adapter — a direct replacement for the OEM throttle tube.Manufactured from

racetorx.co.uk

But I've already had one very bad experience with the throttle, which led to another broken vertebra, so I won't try a DIY like this on this bike.
I mostly run 60 and 80hp on the street and I don't want to mess with the throttle.

I'm pretty sure Stark is working on a better and sturdier throttle design.
I already suggested a few features to Anton directly and he said it was good ideas so I'll wait, like for the portable charger.

 

[ReVolter]

Lock-on left and glue-on right.

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Do these actually fit? It says 7/8" throttle tube but mine is 1".

 

[AL_V]

Do these actually fit? It says 7/8" throttle tube but mine is 1".

They are referring to 7/8 inch diameter handlebars. The throttle tube is always a little bit bigger, hence as you say 1 inch.

• Slip-On Throttle side fits onto any standard 7/8" model twist throttle tube.

It’s not really worded correctly, but there is no standard throttle tube at 7/8 inch OD.

 

[drehwurm68]

My Berm ODI lock-on adapter is working just fine, but I got a RaceTorx one as well mainly to compare both. The RaceTorx has some promising features over the Berm one, but the one I got is basically unusable as it has a loose fit on the ODI grip octagon receiver. I wrote to RaceTorx to see what they say, but for the moment I cannot recommend it!

RaceTorxOdiAdapter.mp4

drive.google.com

Michael

 

[BermCo]

My Berm ODI lock-on adapter is working just fine, but I got a RaceTorx one as well mainly to compare both. The RaceTorx has some promising features over the Berm one, but the one I got is basically unusable as it has a loose fit on the ODI grip octagon receiver. I wrote to RaceTorx to see what they say, but for the moment I cannot recommend it!

RaceTorxOdiAdapter.mp4

drive.google.com

Michael

Hi Michael,

What features are they that you mention about the racetorx one? And I'm glad our Berm Co one is working well for you. Just as an fyi it is just V1 - we only used this one for our internal testing for our V2 but so many people wanted us to release this one we thought why not to get users enjoying lock on grips

V2 will be alloy based so no fatigue even after millions of grip changes were also creating a full alloy throttle so keep your eyes peeled

Berm Co

 

[drehwurm68]

What features are they that you mention about the racetorx one?

As you probably read in my post about your adapter I was not happy with the magnet fitment and placement. Racetorx incorporated the 2 posts and latch of the stock Hirschmann grip to re-use the magnet cover and secure the magnet. Also the magnet compartment is a bit larger in length so you can actually adjust the position (if you know what you are doing) to adjust the virtual throttle play.

Your V1 is a really tight fit so I don't think fatigue will be an issue and the plastic ODI ones have been working just fine for years - not sure an alloy based cam will be necessary, but an all billet complete throttle would be something I'm interested in!

Michael