Honda WN7 (Wind Naked, Fun)

[Beagle]

Honda revealed its EV Fun concept in 2024, since then it's been teasing its first full size electric motorcycle coming into production.

(besides the Honda E-VO done in a joint venture with Chinese OEM Honda E-VO )

Big reveal was supposed to be today:

Guess what, the next reveal will now be in a couple of weeks.

Maybe they'll deign to throw us a bone, give us some specs or the price or even, let's go crazy, show us a part without camo, or high-res pic of foot pegs?

Looks like it could be a nice bike.

 

[Beagle]

Honda reveals more imagery of first full-sized electric motorcycle

We still have questions, but we at least have a better sense of what Honda’s first full-sized electric motorcycle will look like.

www.visordown.com

 

[Beagle]

If the displayed numbers mean anything, if 34% battery edit: corresponds to a range of 44 km, that would point towards a range about 120 km (55 miles).
2024 concept bike was said to be designed for 100 km range.

This could be like a Zero S (60 hp roadster) with half the battery (maybe around 7 kWh instead of 14 kWh) so lighter (Zero S is a hefty 223 kg / 492 lbs) with less range but... onboard fast charger.

CCS2 could likely charge a 6-10ish kWh motorcycle battery in no time (cells specs would probably be the limiting factor).

 

[DaveAusNor]

this was refreshing to see. Stark SM needs this.

 

[Beagle]

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this was refreshing to see. Stark SM needs this.

Yeah, that's not happening, I expect very limited changes between SM and EX (besides the obvious ones). That's why they're working on some kind of small "backpack" charger. Plus there's not enough room and it would be too heavy.

Wholeheartedly agree that proper road bikes need onboard charger, and fast charging compatibility with the existing charging stations is a must.

 

[DaveAusNor]

yea you're right. I doubt they'll do any big changes to the current bike besides slapping on some SM wheels. It's nice to hope for in the future. I'd expect the Royal Enfield bikes will get there before a Stark branded bike with type 2 and DC charging becomes available.

 

[B. FRANK]

i hope honda loses a lot of the cowlings. i just don't like it when they cover up a motorcycle, that's where the beauty lies.

 

[Beagle]

We do know a bit more about the bike, its official name is WN7.
W stands for wind, n for naked, 7 for the power range.












130 km / 80 miles claimed range
20% to 80% charging in 30 min (thanks to CCS2)
18 kW (24 hp) nominal power (A1 version at 11 kW)
50 hp peak power
217 kg
Liquid cooled motor
100 Nm torque
14 999 €

Unlike the Kawasaki that is a proper motorcycle, kudos to Honda for jumping in but ouch at that weight and double ouch at that price.

Battery capacity remains a mystery, they do mention full charge under 3 h on type 2, 6 kW charger. They may be going with a really big capacity close to Zero motorcycles 17.3 kWh.

Full specs will be available at EICMA on November 4th.

PS: @Philip could you please edit the thread title to include the bike official name WN7?

 

[Beagle]

It doesn't seem vastly different from the competition like the Zero S (60 hp, 132 Nm, 223 kg, 17.3 kWh, 160 km highway range, 240 km city range, 17 790€).

I see 2 major differences:
1. CCS2 charging
2. It's a Honda

 

[Erwin P]

130 km of range with a 17 kWh battery? At 200 km/h?
With that claimed range i would think 7-10kW.

They claim a 110km/h sustained top speed.

I don't see a proper motorcycle here but for proper motorcycle money.

 

[DaveAusNor]

Yea, its a little disappointing to be honest. It's worse than the Zero SRS.
To be honest, I'd probably take the Varg with another battery strapped to it. ie the Royal Enfield HIM-E. or Starks new bike in the pipeline, the Elg? Looking forward to seeing the production spec sheet and costs for both of those bikes.

From GTP:
Here are the key specs for the Zero SR/S (2025 model) electric motorcycle:

Power / Performance​

• Peak power: ~ 111 hp
• Peak torque: ~ 140 lb-ft (~190 Nm)
• Top speed: ~ 124 mph (~200 km/h)

Battery / Range / Charging​

• Battery capacity: 17.3 kWh
• Range (city): ~ 171 miles (~275 km)
• Range (highway): ~ 116 miles (~187 km)
• On-board charger: 6.6 kW integrated

Weight & Dimensions​

• Curb (wet) weight: ~ 518 lb (~235 kg)
• Seat height: ~ 31.0 in (~787 mm)

 

[Beagle]

130 km of range with a 17 kWh battery? At 200 km/h?
With that claimed range i would think 7-10kW.

They claim a 110km/h sustained top speed.

I don't see a proper motorcycle here but for proper motorcycle money.

Guesstimating from "under 3 h full charging with type 2 6 kW charger" and super heavy weight I'll say possibly close to Zero 17 kWh as a maximum value.
No idea if stated range is city, highway or whatever so could be closer to Him-E 12-14 kWh.

With CCS2 you probably don't need a very large capacity, topping up in 30 min must be pretty cool.

 

[Erwin P]

But also under 4 hours at a wall outlet. That being 3.5kW means an absolute top of 14kWh IF 0-100% can be done at max charging. I have a strong sence that that 7 is the kWh rating of the battery.

The heavy weight is just Honda being Honda

Stopping half an hour after every 100 km (claimed range is always less than actual range, especially with my street riding buddy's) is not going to be close to what i would want out of a streetbike that's anything else but a commuter. And at €15.799 it's not in the range of commuter money. Especially with 110 km/h sustained top speed.

There are plenty of Chinese bikes that will do what the Honda is doing for under €10.000. And those have proven themselves for over 3 years (that's how outdated this tech/specs are).
And well, if you can spend €16K on a barrely usefull bike (it can't sustain proper highway speeds and short range), you can probably fork over €2K extra and have a bike with a 135km/h sustained top speed, longer range and faster charging. For a model dating back to around 2021 (wich will be 5 year old when the Honda hits the street).

 

[szczur333]

But also under 4 hours at a wall outlet. That being 3.5kW means an absolute top of 14kWh IF 0-100% can be done at max charging. I have a strong sence that that 7 is the kWh rating of the battery.

The heavy weight is just Honda being Honda

Stopping half an hour after every 100 km (claimed range is always less than actual range, especially with my street riding buddy's) is not going to be close to what i would want out of a streetbike that's anything else but a commuter. And at €15.799 it's not in the range of commuter money. Especially with 110 km/h sustained top speed.

There are plenty of Chinese bikes that will do what the Honda is doing for under €10.000. And those have proven themselves for over 3 years (that's how outdated this tech/specs are).
And well, if you can spend €16K on a barrely usefull bike (it can't sustain proper highway speeds and short range), you can probably fork over €2K extra and have a bike with a 135km/h sustained top speed, longer range and faster charging. For a model dating back to around 2021 (wich will be 5 year old when the Honda hits the street).

7kWh will be disaster - my guess is for 10-11kWh
about weight harley livewire has 15kwh with 245kg and eenrgica 18-19kWh with 260kg but these has OLD tech (2019) cells, new have 20-30% more capacity (maybe even 40%)
zero is lighter on spec sheet,, but I think they dont include additional charger/s weight - with fastest capabiluty it will be close to 240kg
and 17,3kWH zero is really about 14-15kWh usable