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I was able to watch and ask some questions on Stark's live Q&A today.

I leave here a summary of what I have found most relevant.

Anton said:

Battery health info coming next on the APP "but we didn't see any relevant degradation on our batteries at the moment"

7KW charger just a few weeks away

No plans to be at EICMA this year presenting new models or technology (That was one of my questions)

They are testing "Cruise Control" for the EX and SM

The adjustable speed reading for differents sprockets can't be added for homologation issues, he said it's impossible

No extended warranty for Canada at the moment, you need a special certificate

Antiwheelie with different angles very likely to be added, he literally said "Yeah most likely we'll put a wheelie control angle so anyone will be able to wheelie, why not?"

They are seeing 330wh/kg with A123 very possible at the moment (Also another question of mine)

Street bikes will be compatible with superchargers

Electronic suspension in a few years

Traction control is at the final test phase, will 100% come in a few months

Cheers.
 
Portable charger delayed and expected in Q2

6kW+ charger will be too heavy or bulky for a rucksack

Traction control will be for all models including MX 1.0
 
Thanks for the news, that's a cool feature, hopefully they keep providing a summary of these.

What would be the use case for 7 kW charger, is this just if you're at one of the few tracks with +4kW plugs available?

Cruise control...GTFOH, it's not a Harley Davidson!

It would be nice to have traction control, very surprising to not have this from the start when all MX bikes already have it. It should be much easier to implement on an electric bike compared to ICE.
 
That 7kW charger will work at our Enduro/OTR events. Often there are 11 or 22 kW chargepoints nearby, same close to some MX tracks.

I would love a Wheelie assist. I never really got the hang of wheelies and am a tad scared. Having a safety net at lets say 45 or 60 degrees would work wonders for confidence. Hope it doesn't rely on the phone though. In that case you would be gasping for air for the past 2 minutes before it kicks in.

If they can't adjust the speed reading, just put a sensor on the front or rear wheel. There allready is a hole for that in the front caliper mount.
 
i would love the wheelie assist for confidence and practice, i personally wouldn't even mind if it were an extra payment, like a one-time payment for life

From what i understand, the anti-wheelie system on some brands like Yamaha or Ducati works with an IMU (Inertial Measurement Unit) which measures pitch, roll, and yaw. The IMU knows exactly how many degrees the wheel has lifted off the ground and at what speed. I'm not sure if the Varg has a similar detection system, the only think could be inside the VCU but i doubt it, so i suppose it will have to be calculated via the phone, and I don't know how reliable and fast that is over Bluetooth
 
No extended warranty in Canada at the moment... - Did they mention they are working on something or it's just not possible? I have a good bit of time left but not really excited about owning it out of warranty. Would probably sell it before it runs out.
 
BD114 said:
No extended warranty in Canada at the moment... - Did they mention they are working on something or it's just not possible? I have a good bit of time left but not really excited about owning it out of warranty. Would probably sell it before it runs out.
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he mention something about a special certificate, the sense i got was that maybe its not impossible but you have to go through a lot of burocracy
 
So b/c I'm not an engineer and have only just recently bought a Varg my knowledge on this tech is very limited. So I asked Gemini what this would mean for us.
"330wh/kg with A123"

Gemini said​

What Anton Wass is referring to is a massive technological leap through a new partnership with A123 Systems (announced in early 2026). They are moving away from the standard automotive "hand-me-down" cells to a bespoke format called the 26120.
Here is what that "330 Wh/kg" actually equates to for a rider like you:

1. Significant Range or Weight Gains​

Your current MX 1.2 battery sits at roughly 210–225 Wh/kg (system level). Moving to a cell density of 330 Wh/kg is a nearly 50% increase in energy density.

  • Option A (More Range): If they keep the battery weight the same (~70 lbs), your bike would jump from 7.2 kWh to roughly 10.5–11 kWh. That would easily push your trail range past 5 hours of aggressive riding.
  • Option B (Less Weight): If they keep the 7.2 kWh capacity, the battery could drop from ~70 lbs down to about 45 lbs. That would bring the total bike weight down into the 230 lb range—lighter than your 300 XC.

2.​

Instead of using the standard 21700 cells (21mm wide x 70mm long) found in cars, the 26120 cell is 26mm wide and 120mm long.
  • The Math: This uses the specific width of a motorcycle frame more efficiently. It reduces the number of individual cells needed, which means fewer internal connectors and less "dead weight" from glue and casing.

    +1

  • Thermal Control: These new cells use an aluminum enclosure rather than steel, which sheds heat much faster. For your Vet MX motos, this means the bike can maintain peak 80hp power for the entire 30 minutes without the battery getting hot enough to throttle back.



    3. Ultra-Fast Charging (The "30-Min Rest" Game Changer)The A123 partnership isn't just about density; it's about C-rates (speed of charging).
  • Target: They are aiming for a 10–15 minute charge time.
    Impact: In your current scenario, you rest for 30 minutes to get a decent charge. With this tech, you could pull into the pits, plug in, and have a 100% full battery before you’ve even finished your first Gatorade.


    This all sounds awesome though I'm sure it would kill the resell value of my current MX 1.2 ......................
 
Katoom said:
So b/c I'm not an engineer and have only just recently bought a Varg my knowledge on this tech is very limited. So I asked Gemini what this would mean for us.
"330wh/kg with A123"

Gemini said​

What Anton Wass is referring to is a massive technological leap through a new partnership with A123 Systems (announced in early 2026). They are moving away from the standard automotive "hand-me-down" cells to a bespoke format called the 26120.
Here is what that "330 Wh/kg" actually equates to for a rider like you:

1. Significant Range or Weight Gains​

Your current MX 1.2 battery sits at roughly 210–225 Wh/kg (system level). Moving to a cell density of 330 Wh/kg is a nearly 50% increase in energy density.

  • Option A (More Range): If they keep the battery weight the same (~70 lbs), your bike would jump from 7.2 kWh to roughly 10.5–11 kWh. That would easily push your trail range past 5 hours of aggressive riding.
  • Option B (Less Weight): If they keep the 7.2 kWh capacity, the battery could drop from ~70 lbs down to about 45 lbs. That would bring the total bike weight down into the 230 lb range—lighter than your 300 XC.

2.​

Instead of using the standard 21700 cells (21mm wide x 70mm long) found in cars, the 26120 cell is 26mm wide and 120mm long.
  • The Math: This uses the specific width of a motorcycle frame more efficiently. It reduces the number of individual cells needed, which means fewer internal connectors and less "dead weight" from glue and casing.

    +1

  • Thermal Control: These new cells use an aluminum enclosure rather than steel, which sheds heat much faster. For your Vet MX motos, this means the bike can maintain peak 80hp power for the entire 30 minutes without the battery getting hot enough to throttle back.



    3. Ultra-Fast Charging (The "30-Min Rest" Game Changer)The A123 partnership isn't just about density; it's about C-rates (speed of charging).
  • Target: They are aiming for a 10–15 minute charge time.
    Impact: In your current scenario, you rest for 30 minutes to get a decent charge. With this tech, you could pull into the pits, plug in, and have a 100% full battery before you’ve even finished your first Gatorade.


    This all sounds awesome though I'm sure it would kill the resell value of my current MX 1.2 ......................
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If you want to know what we think and what we've discussed about this, I recommend you check out this specific thread about the Varg battery: Stark Battery Tech Thread

The data Gemini gave you is good, but not entirely accurate, and all this progress will come gradually. Stark Future has officially stated that an enduro model with double the current range would be at least 10 years away.

My guess is that the next generation of batteries for the Varg will have between 9kW and 10kW... 11kW seems very optimistic to me.

Although it may seem that the technology exists today to achieve much greater range, it usually takes many years to reach the public due to testing, production, scaling, and numerous studies.

This world will gradually improve, that's for sure.
 
Karinshi said:
If you want to know what we think and what we've discussed about this, I recommend you check out this specific thread about the Varg battery: Stark Battery Tech Thread

The data Gemini gave you is good, but not entirely accurate, and all this progress will come gradually. Stark Future has officially stated that an enduro model with double the current range would be at least 10 years away.

My guess is that the next generation of batteries for the Varg will have between 9kW and 10kW... 11kW seems very optimistic to me.

Although it may seem that the technology exists today to achieve much greater range, it usually takes many years to reach the public due to testing, production, scaling, and numerous studies.

This world will gradually improve, that's for sure.
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This AI analysis is not entirely awful... except for the starting point of comparing alleged 210-225 Wh/kg at system level with the target of 330 Wh/kg at cell level. Then of course all calculations regarding this are meaningless. At cell level it will be going from about 260 Wh/kg to 330 Wh/kg, that's around 25% improvement, not 50%.

It also rightly points out that the cell length becomes much closer to the motorcycle width and talks about better cooling from aluminum cell case but fails to understand that running cells in 1 row instead of 2 will greatly improve cooling by having both ends of each cell (instead of 1) directly in contact with the air-cooled battery pack case.
 
Well I just hope the Stark puts an upgrade path in place for us with existing bikes.... If I could get another 25% with a faster charge time that would be huge!
 
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