Stark mobile charger is out !

[OpaTsupa]

Made me look.
It really is there.
It charged by 2% faster than it took to take a screenshot.

This on 230V / 50Hz / 16A shuko plug.

 

[Erwin P]

Fun fact is that 16A fuses/safety's don't trip at 16A but much higher. They are just rated 16A.

But you have found out by now.

 

[Erwin P]

My MX 1.0 also shows 6.6 now. However tops out at 3.1kW like it allready did before. Have to mention it has been charging with 0,3kW for a couple of hours now. Might be the charger being hot.

Damn i guess it means i really should get that EX. Just extended my warranty with 2 years today. But hey, can't be all that bad of a deal.

 

[OpaTsupa]

Very interesting.
Considering 75% of 7.2 kwh, i. e. 5.4 kwh, in in 45/60 minutes, it must be indeed charging at more than 5 kw.
Pretty weird that Stark hasn't sent any email about this update.
I'd like to know whether there are signs of burns on the pins of the Schucko plug, though.

There was no update on the bike, and I'm pretty sure no update to the app as I was tinkering with it the other day. [v.2.6.1 now]
So was it always there and they just unlocked it?
We really need an insider to feed us Factory leaks.

 

[Bodo]

that number concern me a lot, i already have 160 hours on just 5 months of use, and the limit is 500 hours? so the bike wont last me even a 2 year lifespan at this rate? and i dont even use It that much, some trails every other weekend and 2 days a week for work... i cant believe that

That's just the time that Stark Future will guarantee the bike; it can last a lot longer depending on use

 

[Bodo]

A friend of mine, actually charged at 6.6kW and it's working for him, it's drawing 5.9kW and he charged from 10-85 in like 45 min to an hour View attachment 15087

Interesting. What charger/s are they using?

 

[drehwurm68]

Interesting. What charger/s are they using?

On my EX it shows the same now, but as OpaTsupa said this is on an outlet with a 16A fuse - do the math, it is not possible. It is a software bug.

Michael

 

[Karinshi]

The bikes expected life where the bike functions as it should at the expected use is 500 hours.
Same for the MX.

That 500 hours is competition use. Jumping, bashing, racing. The stress to the frame and everything around it in MX or Enduro competition is something completely different to what you are doing.

You will see claims like this at any bike, especially MX and ENduro bikes.

are you sure is only on "competition use"? doesnt say anything about that on the manual, but i believe you, i don't want to believet the opposite because then my bike has a little more than half of its life left and I'm practically starting to enjoy it now, I don't like spending 13,000 euros on a bike that won't last me even 2 years... I don't use it for competition but I also do my little jumps and do light enduro I suppose that will wear the bike down too... but oh well, hopefully with this use it will last at least 1,000 hours... I think that what suffers the most is the battery and the chassis, the rest you can replace everything "cheaply". The inverter/motor should last a lot more than 500hours

 

[Karinshi]

A friend of mine, actually charged at 6.6kW and it's working for him, it's drawing 5.9kW and he charged from 10-85 in like 45 min to an hour View attachment 15087

so the Stock Charger is capable of 6.6kwh WTF! jajaja . I am worried that both the cable and the connector could burn, but also the charger components themselves.

 

[Theo]

are you sure is only on "competition use"? doesnt say anything about that on the manual, but i believe you, i don't want to believet the opposite because then my bike has a little more than half of its life left and I'm practically starting to enjoy it now, I don't like spending 13,000 euros on a bike that won't last me even 2 years... I don't use it for competition but I also do my little jumps and do light enduro I suppose that will wear the bike down too... but oh well, hopefully with this use it will last at least 1,000 hours... I think that what suffers the most is the battery and the chassis, the rest you can replace everything "cheaply". The inverter/motor should last a lot more than 500hours

I remember having read somewhere, I think from some Stark's document, but don't quote me on this (I mean don't quote me unless you are replying to this post ) that the battery was supposed to experience a continuous reduction in capacity up to the point that, after 500 full charging cycles, its capacity would have been 80% of the original one. This means 5.2 kwh for a 6.5 kwh battery and, if the statement holds good for the 7.2 kwh one, 5.8 kwh for it. Full charging cycles means from 0% to 100%, so if you recharge for example by 50%, then it's only half a full charging cycle. BTW, the percentage of original capacity left is named State Of Health (SOH), so when you reach that point of 80%, then the SOH is 80%.
This degrading process is affected by the use conditions: how fast you discharge, how fast you recharge, how well balanced the cells are, etcetera.

Now the slider reaches 6.6 on my phone, too on a Gen1 MX 1.0 although I haven't manually updated the app since one week ago, when I could only set it up to 3.3. I don't dare to try it until Stark explains us how we can use it. At the tracks where I ride, they have dozens of kw of electric power available and I've also seen some of those red industrial sockets that usually are rated at 380V and a lot of Ampere, so maybe they will let me recharge faster, but I still want to understand what charger I can use with that power and any limitation, because more than once I've read things like "max 250V 16A" for schucko connectors and never anything more.

 

[Karinshi]

I remember having read somewhere, I think from some Stark's document, but don't quote me on this (I mean don't quote me unless you are replying to this post ) that the battery was supposed to experience a continuous reduction in capacity up to the point that, after 500 full charging cycles, its capacity would have been 80% of the original one. This means 5.2 kwh for a 6.5 kwh battery and, if the statement holds good for the 7.2 kwh one, 5.8 kwh for it. Full charging cycles means from 0% to 100%, so if you recharge for example by 50%, then it's only half a full charging cycle. BTW, the percentage of original capacity left is named State Of Health (SOH), so when you reach that point of 80%, then the SOH is 80%.
This degrading process is affected by the use conditions: how fast you discharge, how fast you recharge, how well balanced the cells are, etcetera.

Now the slider reaches 6.6 on my phone, too on a Gen1 MX 1.0 although I haven't manually updated the app since one week ago, when I could only set it up to 3.3. I don't dare to try it until Stark explains us how we can use it. At the tracks where I ride, they have dozens of kw of electric power available and I've also seen some of those red industrial sockets that usually are rated at 380V and a lot of Ampere, so maybe they will let me recharge faster, but I still want to understand what charger I can use with that power and any limitation, because more than once I've read things like "max 250V 16A" for schucko connectors and never anything more.

We need to see what Molicell has to say about all that for their cells... seems legit. i ALWAYS charge it at the 1kw slow mode or even less sometimes... i use 3.3kw just one day because my friends called me to ride and i was at 30%. Im treating the bike like a baby jajaja

BTW, tomorrow i have my local dealer changing my entire drive train, i hope they do it quickly, the entire motorcycle needs to be disassembled for that, terrible... i want to do it myself but Stark says i will loose the warranty

 

[Erwin P]

are you sure is only on "competition use"? doesnt say anything about that on the manual, but i believe you, i don't want to believet the opposite because then my bike has a little more than half of its life left and I'm practically starting to enjoy it now, I don't like spending 13,000 euros on a bike that won't last me even 2 years... I don't use it for competition but I also do my little jumps and do light enduro I suppose that will wear the bike down too... but oh well, hopefully with this use it will last at least 1,000 hours... I think that what suffers the most is the battery and the chassis, the rest you can replace everything "cheaply". The inverter/motor should last a lot more than 500hours

Offcourse hard to say but any statement about a competition bike is made in regards to competition use.

It's easy enough to see how relaxter use puts much less strain on it. You do "little jumps" while the thing is build to do table top jumps all day.
Take the KTM EXC 500 for example. It says 135 hours till complete engine overhaul. At the same time there is a guy who did over 65.000 km of travel before he did a topend overhaul. Use matters... a lott.

Also there is something in the EU laws about products lasting at least their expected lifetime regardless of warranty. If you don't state anything about the expected lifetime a judge will in case of discrepantie about a bike breaking down after 600 hours or 3 years. If that judge takes normal streetbikes as a reverence, sees the bike has only done 8000km in less then 3 years... Well the he may conclude that even after warranty is over the bike should not have broken down.
By making your own statement for everyone to read you have been ahead of that.

 

[Karinshi]

nice info man... i think my numbers dont makes sense, i have 3.040km on the odometer and 160 hours on the hour count... That means I've been going at an average speed of 18km/h, but that seems impossible to me, it was much faster. Curious.

 

[Theo]

My MX 1.0 also shows 6.6 now. However tops out at 3.1kW like it allready did before. Have to mention it has been charging with 0,3kW for a couple of hours now. Might be the charger being hot.

Damn i guess it means i really should get that EX. Just extended my warranty with 2 years today. But hey, can't be all that bad of a deal.

A possible explanation is that the Varg app is common to all users and therefore people with a 1.0 have the faster charge option, too, but only people with 1.2 powertrains can use it.