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One would hope non-subscription, core features include a minimum of 5 maps since the bike will hold 5 maps at a time. Double that would be better. I can see some power users wanting to have more, but 100 maps is a lot of maps and for the person that wants it all. I haven't seen where the...

Oh, I follow now. I thought maybe there was a link missing. I misinterpreted "the latest" and thought there was some new news. You were just pointing out they picked up the story and had mentioned the Varg in the new issue. <thumbs up>

Not following. This is a very brief overview of what was in the Dec. 14 release. Was that supposed have a link to something? When I click on it, it just opens that image and short paragraph...

Maybe add a "Delivery Country" column as well. Mine is USA. Deliver dates or something in the order number might be related to country code. Plus it's just fun to see the different countries.

Wheelsick, Since you are the OP, how about you edit your first post with a table that is a running list with order number, order date, estimated delivery date, actual delivery date. Once you create the table, you can hover and insert rows above or below when others post info in the future. If...

I went back to my comment and added my order number. It would be interesting to compare. I'm on other sites where everyone shares order numbers of new vehicles and it's interesting to see the number or orders.

From what I have observed, hp rating does not impact delivery date. Every time I've put a 80hp or 60hp in the cart, the calculated delivery date is the same between the two. Which makes sense. The bikes are identical except for a software setting. No reason for them to have different runs. They...

I ordered 12/14/2021 and was given estimated delivery date of 9/24/2022. Order #CC12268 Going to the order/checkout page today (01/06/2022), it gives an estimated delivery date of 02/24/2023.

The current offering for buyers is to choose between the two. Their accessory and parts page is not active yet. There may be something they offer there, but the no-cost option at ordering is choosing between one or the other.

1,440 orders a day (one per minute) seems realistic for around four days after the release (That estimate looks to be on Dec. 18). Hard to say if the volume stayed that high over the first 2 weeks, but if so, that would be just over 20,000 orders.

Ah yes. Right you are. I was only looking at half the case! Ha. Original post updated

Ah, Interesting. I have no first hand knowledge of MOQ, etc. I was thinking more simply and from the perspective that if cells are hard to acquire and a manufacturer obtains a specific number of them, one can build a lot more bikes from a specific quantity of cells compared to the number of...

At least the Varg only uses 400 battery cells per bike rather than 4,000 - 18,000 cells like in an EV car/pickup (depending on what type of cells they use).

So the take away from this thread, so far, is the same as from every 'range' thread I've ever read for an EV dirtbike (Alta, KTM Freeride, Surron X, Surron Storm, Zero FX, etc.). Ha. That is that every trail rider has greatly different preferred riding speed, outdoor temperature, elevation...

Stark notes the Varg is the first of many bikes. Presumably that means not only enduro and dual sport versions on this platform but also additional platforms. Enduro and dual sport versions are better geared for my trail use. I like the headlight for oncoming trail traffic visibility and brake...

Yeah, lots of advertised great specs and that is why I ordered one on Dec. 14, but for me, inadequate trail range is the only thing that will be a deal breaker and cause me to cancel. Really, I'd still buy any given EV bike even if the weight was more, power was less, and suspension worse than...

Good info. Thanks. If the Varg even slightly exceeds your 30 - 50kph (19 - 31mph) and 80km (50 mile) trail riding range of your Alta, that would seal the deal and I'll accept my Varg order when it's ready.

You are correct that Stark claims a pro lever rider can complete a MXGP race on one charge. I believe those races are 30 minutes plus two laps so depending on the track, that 35 minute example seems about right. My take on it is the 6 hours is from a controlled treadmill run at a constant...

I thought their motor size reasoning was interesting. Based on their comments, they are suggesting, for example, that an 80hp motor operating at 50hp will be more efficient and consume less energy than a 50hp operating at 50hp. I don't know enough about electric motors to confirm or deny, but I...

The Varg lets you program the entire the entire power curve, entire engine braking curve, Virtual Flywheel Weight Acceleration, Virtual Flywheel Weight Deceleration, and Traction control. How well it's programmed I don't know, but it should be fairly straight forward. The beauty of a virtual...