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Ya me either. I think it is bullshit to whine about the pricing. I am not a Stark fanboy but we were early adopting, and the bikes were in early production that is the way it works. And some of the early stuff that was not so good they have already have improved due to customer demand. No other...

Not sure on the 450sx. There is this thread Stark Varg Hard Enduro Mods looks like only high priced carbon for Stark specific. If you find something like a KTM plastic match update if you can. TY

I have never understood the weird religion of power plants. If a bike is good it is good. I have a 4T wr450, a 2T xcw-300 tpi, and a Stark. The Stark is the best bike I have and it is a powerful dream to ride. And since I don't moto any longer I get pretty good battery life in enduro and the...

Awesome. I wish other states were the same way when it comes to OHVs.

Is your Varg licensed for the road? Maybe the laws and coverage are different where you are, but to be considered street legal here they must be licensed and registered --and in the case of a claim insurance might not cover otherwise. OHV coverage can be different in many states but that is...

Did they suggest replacing the power button assembly?

Ya I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if you could DIY that?

They weren't very happy about me demanding the new design. Also, more than one service person insisted I was wrong that there was no new design. Then when I reposted the picture from here they said yes there was a new design and then proceeded to send me the old one again. :muutt: Finally after...

It wasn't easy but I finally got the magical new design. @Foss was right after much back and forth and getting sent the old style multiple times finally got what I wanted. This was shipped from Spain and was not shipped the typical way things are from the Stark store. I think the deal is the...

Exactly right. On your last point I wish they would update documentation with software/firmware behavior changes associated with updates and fixes. It hard to find this stuff. And YouTube or TikTok videos are not enough for a top grade platform. Almost all software companies have release...

Agreed. They don't even have good communication among service/parts themselves. Some know they have a new design others don't. Also, they must have some newbs working there because when I complained about getting sent the wrong bolt twice he/she accused me of trying to get free bolts and that...

Yes and most folks not riding moto aren't using the Stark with Taddy Blazusiak skills. A lot depends on how you ride the bike. In slow tough gnarl riding the Stark will usually outlast most rider's endurance. Long desert riding or big loop mileage might be different though.

Unhappy to report that Stark sent me the old style for a second time. I complained originally and they said the would send the correct one. The "correct" one arrived and was wrong again. :mad:

Gnarly ride with the Varg and Gas bikes:

Well since they diagnosed it as the battery maybe they have a diag that indicates that. But personally when I have had problems similar to that I start with the power switch itself. It is simple and easy to replace and has been known to be flakey especially when dirt, water, or mud get in it...

I'd like the bike to roll even better when I push it (like neutral):muutt:. I haven't been stranded on a track because I ride enduro but pushing a Stark out of the woods after a crash or break down is awful. And I can't imagine it makes it any easier if you are on the other side of the track...

IMHO I think they should continue to progress with even better throttle control. A clutch means some of your strength and control has to be removed from the bars to modulate power & etc. They have brought the tech this far, fly-by-wire works effectively for dirtbikes, I am simply beyond...

I like Gaerne SGs for durability and comfort. They are expensive and heavy but hold up much better than the lighter less expensive Foxes and ASs IMHO. SG-10s start at around 400.00 SG-12s are around 450.00 and SG-22s will run over 600.00. There are some lesser models but SG-10s get the job...

I think Stark sales in the US are being impacted by the more general decline and slowing of E adoption in the US. If they can lower the prices it will help adoption, plus for right now, Stark can probably avoid the tariffs, taxes, and government regulations designed to thwart other imports. So...

Ya that's a great deal. With all the benefits the Stark brings at that kind of price it will bring over more regular ICE riders. The margins on Starks are probably pretty good, and if they outsourced it to Asia, they could probably cut even more off the price. A Varg at 8k would be a slam dunk...