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I didnt comment on it in my video because it was not yet public knowledge. I hope you can understand that. What i did say in my video is how the bike felt out on the track.
After they publicly announced it, i posted this comment in this thread explaining my thoughts: First Customer Bikes are shipping!
I did notice the weight right away when i pulled the very first bike off the stand. I was expecting it to feel lighter than my MXR given the advertised 242 but it didnt. The Varg is a little more rear weight biased than the MXR but it felt very similar to how my MXR feels lifting it off the stand. On the track it felt very light and flickable, just like the MXR. The feeling we all love on our MXRs.
Keep in mind, the Varg is at 260lbs with coil spring KYB forks and a higher capacity battery. Alta MXR is 258lbs with a WP AER48 air fork. Those who put coil spring forks on their MXR are probably heavier than a Varg. The Varg is a massive improvement over the MXR from a performance standpoint even at the new weight spec.
Keep in mind this bike is purpose built for motocross but can be spec'd with parts that make it more offroad friendly (18" rear, kickstand, etc). I cant comment on how much range it will get in someone's particular single track riding scenario because i havent done that type of riding on the bike yet. As we MXR/EXR owners know range varies quite a bit. I Will definitely be making a single track video and do a full range test 100-0% after my bike arrives.
That all said, they told me the new weight spec before i paid in full and i still decided to buy the bike. I like what i rode in Barcelona.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time over Stark's business decisions, just pointing out that Stark had plenty of opportunities to update customers on the weight increase, which is a key spec of the bike.
The fact that they told you not to disclose the weight of the bike just proves what I'm saying. They did not want this information to come out, I suspect because its a negative and might reduce sales, might cause cancellations of orders, might have pre-order customers demanding refunds.
Regarding the performance of the bike with the weight increase, seems like a bunch of folks are trying to convince me/us that the increased weight doesn't affect the bikes performance, so its a non-issue. I disagree completely. A 242 lb dirt bike is going to handle way better then a 260 lb dirt bike in all conditions. I'm not disputing that the 260 lb SV works great on the track, is better then the MXR, what I'm saying is a 242 lb SV, as was promised, would be better.
If people feel the additional 18 lbs is a non-issue, right on, that's cool. I disagree.
Someone else said something about growing more muscles, fitness program, in support of the 18 lbs heavier SV? Ok. Buy a $13k latest technology bike that is 18 lbs over advertised, in effect a porker, and be happy about it because its giving you a workout to ride? Just buy an old XR650R, you'll get a better workout and be $10k ahead, Lol.
Again, my only issue is that they are not delivering what they advertised (not even close), they repeatedly kept that information from customers, and they have a no refund policy for the pre-orders. That is so lame and makes me feel like I can not trust them. Just my opinion, others are entitled to be fine with all that of course.
If they will refund pre-order customers their deposits, its all good. If not, my feeling is they are screwing people over.