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[drehwurm68]

All updates so far have been upgrades. Never removed something or made the bike worse.

How would you know, as you don't know what changed? And for me it kind of made it worse or at least cost me some money as I had to go back to my subscription to adapt my advanced power mode. I know, not all are as sensible to the power delivery as I'm, but I can feel differences.

- They don't believe in the electronic clutch. With good reason i believe (and agree).

Just watch the video about the Jarv-E with Jarvis. He basically came to the same conclusion as I did after getting used to the electric bike that there is really no clutch needed per se, BUT utilizing the capabilities of the onboard electronics to simulate clutch-like features is key. Most importantly being adjustable or at least being able to choose from a number of settings as this is an extremely individual feature. Stark is totally lacking in that regard. The Rare clutch is interesting in its own way, but if you look at it closely it severely lacks in many regards as well - there is no integration into the bike electronics other than altering the throttle signal. It doesn't even take RPM/speed into account. And you loose the LHRB as well which has become one of the key features of the Varg for me. I'm would not criticize Stark if I had the impression they would try, but currently I have the impression they chose the minimal effort/maximum revenue route.

Michael

 

[OpaTsupa]

How would you know, as you don't know what changed? And for me it kind of made it worse or at least cost me some money as I had to go back to my subscription to adapt my advanced power mode. I know, not all are as sensible to the power delivery as I'm, but I can feel differences.


Just watch the video about the Jarv-E with Jarvis. He basically came to the same conclusion as I did after getting used to the electric bike that there is really no clutch needed per se, BUT utilizing the capabilities of the onboard electronics to simulate clutch-like features is key. Most importantly being adjustable or at least being able to choose from a number of settings as this is an extremely individual feature. Stark is totally lacking in that regard. The Rare clutch is interesting in its own way, but if you look at it closely it severely lacks in many regards as well - there is no integration into the bike electronics other than altering the throttle signal. It doesn't even take RPM/speed into account. And you loose the LHRB as well which has become one of the key features of the Varg for me. I'm would not criticize Stark if I had the impression they would try, but currently I have the impression they chose the minimal effort/maximum revenue route.

Michael

All the talk about clutch (not to mention sacrificing LHRB for it) would disappear if Stark would do what Michael says: pay attention and correct or improve the weak points.

What I don't understand is how almost no rider seems to notice or heed this limitation to fantastic bike when a bellow-average, try-hard rider like myself finds it so often.
Today I had miserable ride cut short mostly because rear tire is 1/2 worn and I was spinning everywhere. Going slow and nursing the throttle in otherwise perfect conditions on a (almost) perfect bike is not fun.

 

[Karinshi]

From what I read between the lines they already had a solid partner who was developing their software and electronics and could have probably delivered traction control a year ago, but Stark pushed them away, and now it's one guy with a laptop and a 10 people media crew to film him.
Anton and Stark reminds me more of Steve Jobs. They have talent, drive and can make a world-beating product but if every collaborator doesn't align 1000% with their messianic vision or is willing to execute all their plans, then they are not good enough. They will plough on through their errors and glorify the fixes that could have been avoided.
On the other hand they waste time and money on pretending to listen to their valued customers whom they actually scorn and ignore.

I have zero sentiment towards the makers of my car, washing machine or the kettle. I pay for their product and have modest expectations that they will work. I don't expect their CEO to answer my emails within a day or give me "support".
Stark is different so that if you read through the Varg manual or the FAQ every possible issue with the bike is followed by "please contact us". Instruction videos and manuals stopped two years ago.
They brought the deluge of customer support misery on themselves and when it started to hurt they pushed it back to the dealers who are mostly EV bicycle enthusiasts or over-large powersports dealers without care or competence for the offroad.

Ranting a little because my six months old bike won't charge to 100%.

my older Varg won't charge to 100% too and they give me an entire new bike under warranty. My new bike has a 2 year warranty again plus another year for the inconvenience

contact them and im sure they will help you